This is fascinating, and disturbing: http://freetheslaves.net/ I didn’t know that slavery was still around. but it is. all over the world in fact. Check out this site for what people are doing to stop it.
This is interesting below. Bishop Spong is right on the money. Part of the new “emerging paradigm” in Christianity. If all the religions had a few guys like Bishop John Shelby Spong, then the world would be a better place, and well on its way to recovery from it’s long hypnotic state.
Chris from Chicago writes:
“How can Christians believe that of Jesus’ 46 chromosomes, 23 were contributed by a human and 23 by a non-human? If this was true and Jesus was unique wouldn’t that make all other religions irrelevant? But “virgin births” are not unique to Christianity. They are present in many mythologies. Isn’t the Council of Nicea’s pronouncement on Jesus’ divinity just a pre-emption to provide security and control? I don’t believe there has been a single human being in the history of the world that didn’t have two human parents, including Jesus.
Carlyle thought Jesus’ father might have been a Roman soldier. If Jesus were illegitimate, that would go a long way to explaining his antipathy to his mother (see Mark 3:31-35, Mark 6:1-6, and John 2:1-11). Of course, you never hear the Catholic Church quoting the passage in Mark in any of its liturgies where Jesus replies to a question with, “Why do you call me good? Only God is good (Mark 10:18).”
You raise a series of very good questions. Many Christians, especially those in academic centers do not believe that of Jesus’ 46 chromosomes, 23 were contributed by a non-human. If that were true it would mean that Jesus was not fully human, which is half of the Christ claim traditionally made by the Church. Virgin births are not unique to Christianity. That was the traditional way ancient societies explained their larger than life figures. No, I am quite convinced Jesus had a human mother and a human father. Please remember the Pauline claim that “God was in Christ, reconciling” was written decades before the virgin birth story entered Christian written history. A virgin birth was not part of the original Kerygma. It was added to the Christ story in the ninth decade of the Christian era.
First century people also did not understand genetics or the reproductive process. These ancient ones, caught as they were in an assumed patriarchy, did not see the woman as contributing to birth anything more than her nurturing womb. So if one wanted to speak of a person’s divine origin, one had only to get rid of the human father. There was no need to get rid of the human mother, since her only function was to “nurture the divine seed.”
But in 1724, the western world discovered that women have an egg cell and are, therefore, equal co-creators of every life that has ever lived. So if you literalize the myth of the Virgin Birth and pretend you are talking about biology, what you get is a Jesus with half human and half divine chromosomes. This would make him neither human nor divine but a kind of monster or at least something akin to a mermaid!
I do not know of a reputable New Testament scholar in the world today, Catholic or Protestant, who treats the birth stories about Jesus in Matthew and Luke as literal history. You might find one at Bob Jones University, Liberty Baptist College or Oral Roberts University. It also appears to be true that no Roman Catholic scholar will draw the proper conclusion from his or her scholarship and still be welcomed at the Vatican. Raymond Brown was the master politician on this subject prior to his death. The days of treating the birth narratives as history are simply over in scholarly circles and I think it is time we said so publicly.
I do not think that seeing the virgin birth as a mythological and symbolic way of saying we have met in this Jesus a God presence that human life could never have produced in no way invalidates the claim we make that God was in Christ. It does destroy the literalism in which we have bound him but I regard that as good riddance
In other news, the country is going crazy with RAGE over the current evil administration and their reaction to hurricane Katrina. A year ago, it seemed like just me along with a handful of others were the only ones who ever thought of taking real action. Now everyone is talking about it. Even on the subway tonight people were talking about it. what is the it? “what can WE do to change things? what can we do to take our country back?” Its all anyone who give a shit is talking about… if people are not talking about this, then they are still asleep. See the email below that was forwarded to me today:
—– Forwarded message from Jet —–
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 15:33:05 -0400
Subject: Politically Incorrect version of the email that I sent
about the Hurricane
To: Providence K
All right ladies,
Brace yourselves, I’m not holding back here. George Bush is a
EVIL MOTHER-FUCKER! I am PISSED OFF. What the FUCK is this
problem?! This is completely unacceptable! The fascist moron
said so himself. This mother fucker needs to be IMPEACHED!
It’s time for us to TAKE BACK THIS COUNTRY! Do you know what I’m
I’m so pissed off, sad and angry. I’m so mother fucking SICK and
the FUCKING HIPPOCRACY and FEELING POWERLESS. That could be US when
disaster hits. That could have been YOUR mom or MY mom. What the
going to happen to us in a natural disaster or another terrorist
We NEED to do something. Please help me figure out what. Do we all
public office? Do we move to another state I mean what the hell do
we do? I
mean what in God’s mother-fucking name do we do? Pardon all the
French but I
am beside myself with rage, emotion, I just can’t take this anymore.
anyway, jet and providence and I are heading to union square this weekend to attend some rallies and talk about what we can do together to take some action.
dear transcendence diaries readers, no matter what, watch this whole little two minute movie that she is referring to: http://movies.crooksandliars.com/Meet-the-Press-Broussard.mov
bro watch that and then you will then understand better what it is like here right now… it is awful now in America. everyone is really angry or sad. everywhere… even in the cigars stores everyone just sits around sad… its quite painful right now here because of all these different things happening at once. interesting.
My name is Fishy. I am a recently new acquaintance of Providence’s. I agree with you one hundred percent and so do a lot of other people. it is all anyone is talking about.
We should talk/brainstorm. You can email me or I would be happy to call you whenever you get a chance. My cell is xxxxxxxx.
Listen, have you seen the movie the weather underground? Important in today’s times I believe.
From: Jxxx [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 4:42 PM
To: .: Fishy
Subject: Re: Politically Incorrect version of the email that I sent about the Hurricane
Yeah I have seen that movie and it has popped into my head more than a
few times since the hurricane and when I was writing my angry email to
my friends. I’ll give you a call this Friday or this weekend. Lets talk.
HI Jet —
Excellent. I look forward to it. I like where you are coming from. I am pretty involved in political and social activism already, but still don’t think that we are doing what we really need to be doing… I would like to see real change versus bullshit marches and petitions that don’t do anything. Your email resonated with me deeply.
go here and watch this : http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/09/04.html
and then go here and watch this: Link: http://secretsinbaghdad.blogspot.com/2005/07/i-found-myself.html
hey Jules, thanks for the email!
Totally to what you said.
But you know what? I’m here now:
I had a repiphany (that’s hers by the way– she’s good like that). but I’m here:
Any girl is either going to totally turn me on mentally spiritually and sexually/physically, or I’m going to let her off the hook… its got to be the whole package. Great ass and great brains and great heart. not two out of three. not again.
O.k. check it:
Please read this letter from Michael Moore below: this is EXACTLY what I am talking about:
Little armies forming around the country/world(perhaps) that do what the governments don’t/won’t/aren’t yet.
It is happening now.
Exactly what accented our conversations on all day on Sunday in that little group I was in…. the “but what can we do?” conversation…
Psyched, BUT we have a lot to do to get the transcendence army off the ground and running.
Lets talk when you have a chance.
There is much to be said and done about the man-made annihilation of New Orleans, caused NOT by a hurricane but by the very specific decisions made by the Bush administration in the past four and a half years. Do not listen to anyone who says we can discuss all this later. No, we can’t. Our country is in an immediate state of vulnerability. More hurricanes, wars, and other disasters are on the way, and a lazy bunch of self-satisfied lunatics are still running the show.
So, in the next few days, I will write to you about what must be done about Bush and Co.
But today I want you to join with me in bypassing the colossally inept and incompetent Bush administration and get help DIRECTLY to the people of the New Orleans area — right now.
A lot of you have written me to ask what you can do. Many don’t know who to trust. Many want to do more than write a check. You are right to think that writing checks to relief agencies will not get water and aid to people in the next 48 hours. Checks will be needed later and can be written later.
I have a way, though, for each and every one of us to do something today that can affect people’s lives TODAY.
For the past few days I’ve been working with a group that, I guarantee you, will get direct aid to the people who need it most.
Cindy Sheehan, the brave woman who dared to challenge Mr. Bush at his summer home, has now sent her Camp Casey from in front of Bush’s ranch to the outskirts of New Orleans. The Veterans for Peace have taken all the equipment and staff of volunteers and set up camp in Covington, Louisiana, on the shores of Lake Pontchartrain. They are accepting materials and personally distributing them to those in need.
This is where we come in. We need to ship supplies to them immediately. Today they need the following:
Paper plates, paper towels, toilet paper, baby diapers, baby wipes, baby formula, Pedialyte, baby items in general, powder, lotion, handy wipes, sterile gloves, electrolytes, LARGE cans of veggies, school supplies, and anything else to lift people’s spirits.
You can ship these items by following the instructions on VFPRoadTrips.org. Or you can deliver them there in person. The roads to Covington are open. Here’s how to get there. You can drop them off or you can stay and participate (if you stay, you’ll be camping so bring your own tent and gear and mosquito spray).
If you can’t ship these items or go there in person, then go to VFPRoadTrips.org and make an immediate donation through PayPal. Camp Casey-Covington will have immediate access to this cash and can buy the items themselves from stores that are open in Louisiana (all donations to Veterans for Peace, are tax deductible).
Each day I will post up-to-the minute information as to what is needed and the progress Camp Casey is making. Please visit MichaelMoore.com often and do what you can to help.
Many other groups are also doing good work. MoveOn.org has set up a system for people to offer rooms in their homes to the survivors.
There is no time to waste. People are suffering and dying. Each of us can do something. There is no other alternative.
Thank you in advance for your help. Tomorrow, we will take care of the other work we need to do about the ideologically hamstrung incompetents in charge.